Late night chat to discuss the recent VMworld 2008—special for all our members who surf the Web late into the night. We have continued to get a fair number of users from all over the world for our regular "daytime" chats, which are targeted at the U.S. time zones. It turns out that IT guys are often up in the middle of the night doing work: system updates, reading documentation, playing Team Fortress, and so on. Stop by the late-night chat and discuss the latest VMware developments that were announced at VMworld.

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http://blogs.vmware.com/vmtn/2008/09/vmworld-monday.html
http://blogs.vmware.com/vmtn/2008/09/tuesday-keynote.html
http://blogs.vmware.com/vmtn/2008/09/tuesday-after-1.html
http://blogs.vmware.com/vmtn/2008/09/wednesday-keyno.html

Chat Transcript

DELL-ToddM	Waiting on chat to start at 10
	DELL-ScottH joined.
DELL-ToddM	What’s up!
DELL-ToddM	I'm finishing my last compliance course now
DELL-ScottH	Watching TV...”Californication”--good show
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DELL-ScottH	Am I still online
DELL-ScottH	Looks like it
DELL-ToddM	Welcome ethos
ethoslight	Hey, how’s it going guys?
ethoslight	Its markmathson from twitter
ethoslight	Saw you were in here; thought id drop by :)
ethoslight	Didn’t know this chat existed
DELL-ToddM	Hey, Mark. Good to see you here
DELL-ToddM	We're just kinda waiting for the crowd to gather
ethoslight	Cool, I will have to remember this; unfortunately, I can’t stay long tonight because I’m working on some stuff
ethoslight	But will drop by again
DELL-ToddM	Yeah, I just got finished working on a Team Fortress 2 session :)
DELL-ToddM	Now I'm doing real work stuff--required online training
DELL-ScottH	Hey, Mark. So was your tweet in hex or dec for the conversion?
ethoslight	Dec :)
DELL-ScottH	So, what’s the significance?
ethoslight	9/30
DELL-ScottH	Ah
ethoslight	Today’s date
DELL-ScottH	How was the Tf2 session?
DELL-ToddM	I was medic mostly; got 20K healing points
DELL-ToddM	We had one really awesome assault with uber heavies against about four or five sentry guns
DELL-ToddM	Almost made it all the way through
DELL-ScottH	Awesome
DELL-ToddM	Opt-in, opt-out--Very fun stuff I am learning
DELL-ScottH	Oh yeah, compliance courses were fun
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greg.ashbaugh	Hola
DELL-ToddM	Hey Greg. Welcome to late night
DELL-ScottH	Hey greg
greg.ashbaugh	Thanks
greg.ashbaugh	Hey again Scott
DELL-ScottH	Long time
greg.ashbaugh	=]
DELL-ToddM	w00t, I am compliant with training requirements--with two hours to spare
greg.ashbaugh	Congrats
greg.ashbaugh	I have two trainings, which I’m delinquent on at work.
DELL-ToddM	I just realized this morning that the deadline for our group was Oct 1st
greg.ashbaugh	You guys getting paid overtime :)
DELL-ScottH	Yeah, he had this deer-in-the-headlights look during the meeting
DELL-ToddM	Well, it looks a little bit thin on chatters so far
DELL-ScottH	ppppppppuuuuuuullllleeeaaaazzzzzeeeeee
DELL-ScottH	The job is reward enough
greg.ashbaugh	So what direction are you taking twitter?
DELL-ScottH	Or manager reads this, right?
greg.ashbaugh	I’ll sign a virtual chat NDA
greg.ashbaugh	:p
DELL-ToddM	The twitter meeting was about setting up an "official" delltechcenter account
DELL-ToddM	And a "personal" team twitter account for Scott and me
DELL-ScottH	Which of course has no followers now
greg.ashbaugh	W might be getting be getting into the vi4 beta
greg.ashbaugh	Which will be awesome
DELL-ToddM	Which we did--delltechcenter is official, dellservergeeks is Scott and me
DELL-ToddM	I haven't really checked in with our engineering guys on what they have tested with vi4 to date
DELL-ToddM	Usually they are working with VMware all along to make sure that Dell servers will work well with ESX
DELL-ToddM	PERC drivers and OpenManage support, for example
greg.ashbaugh	Yeah, I’d like to show off some of the new features to the head honchos at work
DELL-ScottH	I forget how nice we have it; can just download the builds
greg.ashbaugh	That's definitely nice
DELL-ToddM	Are you guys a big VMware shop today? Lots of Vi3 already in production
DELL-ToddM	?
DELL-ScottH	And the MSDN sub is a cool perk
greg.ashbaugh	Yeah, we have a total of 35 ESX servers right now
greg.ashbaugh	Connected to EMC Clarion
greg.ashbaugh	And Symetrex
DELL-ScottH	Do you deploy virtual first? Or still consolidating?
greg.ashbaugh	We just bought twenty 2950s
DELL-ToddM	Are you all Fibre? Or is there some iSCSI in there?
greg.ashbaugh	They created a "VMware first" policy
greg.ashbaugh	Where it has to be considered first
DELL-ToddM	I ask about the storage because we are doing a series of selecting the right storage for virtualization starting next week
greg.ashbaugh	No iSCSI for us
greg.ashbaugh	How does iSCSI perform in comparison to the Fibre?
greg.ashbaugh	That will be interesting
DELL-ToddM	In most small block random I/O scenarios, iSCSI will perform just as well as Fibre when comparing the same number/type of disks
greg.ashbaugh	I set up my home openfiler server with iSCSI; that's as far as I've done with it :)
DELL-ToddM	Large block sequential allows Fibre to take advantage of its higher throughput in terms of Mb/s
DELL-ToddM	So things like backup can be much faster on Fibre
greg.ashbaugh	So is the end of the late night chats?
DELL-ToddM	It doesn't look good.
DELL-ScottH	Could be...took us months to get the regular chats going
DELL-ToddM	We keep trying new ideas on the site; some work and some don't
greg.ashbaugh	I’ll try to keep coming on a regular basis
greg.ashbaugh	Good information being shared
DELL-ToddM	We might need to do a little more promotion before giving up on this one
DELL-ScottH	Yeah, just keep throwing and throwing...the 3 pm’s have been good lately
DELL-ScottH	Maybe 9 pm would be better
DELL-ScottH	Catch 10 on the east coast
greg.ashbaugh	Do you guys ever watch Chris Pirillo?
DELL-ScottH	Used to follow him all the time
greg.ashbaugh	http://chris.pirillo.com/live/
DELL-ToddM	I haven't heard of him before--just used Google to get his site up
greg.ashbaugh	He's doing an unboxing right now
DELL-ToddM	Indeed he is. I tried out one of those systems in a store once
greg.ashbaugh	He used to be a host on Tech TV
greg.ashbaugh	With Leo Laporte
DELL-ScottH	I really want a Microsoft surface
greg.ashbaugh	I’ll take one too
DELL-ScottH	Maybe you can pick one up cheap in a few years
DELL-ToddM	Maybe we could do an unboxing via chat
DELL-ScottH	With twitpics, that might work
DELL-ToddM	I'm opening the box. I see some docs
greg.ashbaugh	You guys should set up a ustream or stickam live stream or something in a lab
greg.ashbaugh	Demonstrating some stuff
greg.ashbaugh	That would be cool
DELL-ToddM	I throw the docs away and now I see the server
DELL-ScottH	Lol
DELL-ToddM	I think that’s a cool idea--do some server demo stuff or unboxing in a video
greg.ashbaugh	Have you seen http://www.itidiots.com?
greg.ashbaugh	I watch their shows
greg.ashbaugh	Another example of video
DELL-ScottH	Looks good
DELL-ToddM	Dude!
DELL-ScottH	Yeah, you clicked a link!
DELL-ScottH	hahaha
greg.ashbaugh	lol
DELL-ToddM	Yes, I fell for the click on a link thing
DELL-ScottH	Well, think I'm going to drop off
greg.ashbaugh	Night, Scott
DELL-ScottH	Catching up on “Californication”--funny show, sick humor
greg.ashbaugh	I guess I'll take off as well. See ya on twitter
DELL-ToddM	Thanks Greg!
DELL-ScottH	Yeah, Greg, thanks!
greg.ashbaugh	Welcome. See ya next time
greg.ashbaugh	Adios
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Dell-RogerF	Everybody go home?
DELL-ToddM	Only had a couple of guys show up; and one of them was in the afternoon chat
DELL-ToddM	The other had to run as well
DELL-ToddM	Both were from twitter
Dell-RogerF	Following Dellservergeeks?
DELL-ToddM	Yes, dellservergeeks followers
DELL-ToddM	We may need to try this again with a little bit more promotion
DELL-ToddM	Maybe at 9 instead of 10
DELL-ToddM	I'm watching a live unboxing on the Web at http://chris.pirillo.com/live/
DELL-ToddM	He has about 800 viewers
Dell-RogerF	Now that's something we could do with new products
Dell-RogerF	I need to get back to Geometry proofs though
DELL-ToddM	We could even record it and just post the video
DELL-ToddM	Have fun with your shapes
Dell-RogerF	No, it's theorems.
DELL-ToddM	Or proof that the shape is the shape that you think it is
Dell-RogerF	That's more like it. See you tomorrow.