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09-16-2008 Dell M805 and M905 Blades Web Chat
Hear from the product engineers and product marketing managers about the newest editions to the Dell Blade portfolio, the Dell PowerEdge M805 and PowerEdge M905 Blades, as well as FlexAddress capabilities for helping minimize downtime.
Technical Teardown of M805 and M905
Dell PowerEdge M805 Product Details
Dell PowerEdge M905 Product Details
Technical Community - Background Reading
Previous Chat Sessions on Blade Topics- 06-24-08 : Flexible Blades Management Features - Mike Roberts, Armando Acosta, and Chad Fenner
- 06-17-08 : Architecting Blade Management - Scott Hanson
- 06-10-08 : Managing Blades - Scott Hanson
- 07-22-08 : Blade FlexAddress - Samit Ashdhir and Scott Hanson
- 09-09-08 : Bulking Up Dell Blades Web Chat - Scott Hanson and Armando Acosta
Technical Teardown of M805 and M905
Dell PowerEdge M805 Product Details
Dell PowerEdge M905 Product Details
Chat Transcript
| Dell-RogerF | Afternoon |
| DELL_AndyF | Hi Roger, evening here :-) |
| Dell-RogerF | Oh, that's right. Switzerland? |
| DELL_AndyF | The Netherlands this week, Sa2.0 training |
| DELL_AndyF | You think they will have time for the chat? |
| Dell-RogerF | I'd be surprised if Scott or Todd showed up today as they are at VMworld this week. They are Twittering though http://twitter.com/delltechcenter on what they are seeing. In their absence, Armando is going to join us to talk about the new blades that were announced. |
| DELL_AndyF | Okay |
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| Dell-RogerF | Hey Armando. Made it back on time! |
| Armando75 | Roger I'm here. |
| Armando75 | Yes, I wouldn't miss it |
| Armando75 | Should we wait for more to join? |
| Dell-RogerF | I'd recommend another couple of minutes. |
| Dell-RogerF | Andy, any questions for Armando the Blades guru? |
| DELL_AndyF | Had not a chance to play with them |
| DELL_AndyF | The only question that is open atm, is how will the quad-port NICs connect to the switches; could not find an overview quickly that shows the data paths |
| Armando75 | Andy, each M805 and M905 has the capability to house four daughter cards Each daughter card is dual port and connects to the mid-plane through the I/O modules |
| Armando75 | In the Blade NDA deck we have a detailed description of how each of the data paths is routed |
| Dell-RogerF | Nothing public though? |
| Armando75 | We don't have anything public |
| DELL_AndyF | I'll have a look, thanks |
| Armando75 | Fabric A must always be Ethernet |
| Armando75 | Fabric B and C are customizable for Ethernet, Fibre Channel, Infiniband |
| Armando75 | Each port on a single card routes to a separate I/O module |
| DELL_AndyF | But if I understand right, we will get a four-port Ethernet card, will each two ports share one data path then? What about bandwidth? |
| Armando75 | There are no plans for a four port; each card is dual port |
| Armando75 | Bandwidth is not a concern as our midplane will support up to 5.4 TB of throughput |
| Armando75 | Each I/O module can support from 1 to 4 lanes |
| Armando75 | For max throughput |
| DELL_AndyF | We are limited to four Ethernet NICs; if we also have Fibre Channel in the chassis |
| Armando75 | It’s four I/O cards per blade for full-height. Here is the detailed breakdown: two separate Fabric B cards, two separate Fabric C cards, two ports per I/O card, and each port on a single card routes to a separate I/O module |
| DELL_AndyF | Okay, six Ethernet NICs then, and two FC HBA; I'm happy |
| Armando75 | Fabric A still must be Ethernet |
| Armando75 | Correct. That is the beauty of the full height; it utilizes the I/O paths for two slots in the chassis |
| DELL_AndyF | Okay, but I have to look at a drawing with the routing, as four I/O cards to six modules can't be a 1-to-1 connection, but I get the idea |
| DELL_AndyF | Are all our customers at VMworld? |
| Armando75 | Andy, I can send you a slide; the visual will do more justice |
| Armando75 | How are you listed in the directory? |
| Dell-RogerF | Well, probably not all Dell customers are at VMworld, but maybe all of Scott and Todd's followers |
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| Dell-RogerF | Welcome User. |
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| Armando75 | Did you run him off? |
| Dell-RogerF | Some people are just shy like that. |
| Dell-RogerF | Armando, a couple more newbie questions if you don't mind? |
| DELL_AndyF | This was the HP spy ;-) |
| Armando75 | Sure, shoot |
| Dell-RogerF | You just went over the increased I/O with Andy. The new blades also have much more memory too don't they? |
| Armando75 | Yes, the M805 has 16 DIMMs, and the M905 has 24 |
| DELL_AndyF | Woohoo |
| Armando75 | On the M905 we have 50 percent more memory capacity than the competition |
| Armando75 | This is beneficial for I/O-intensive applications like virtualization and databases |
| Dell-RogerF | Does that get memory "balanced" then with respect to CPU utilization for Exchange, databases, etc.? |
| Armando75 | Not only that, but this allows customers to use lower-cost memory configurations |
| Armando75 | Yes, plus the AMD direct connect architecture allows for better utilization of CPU and memory |
| Dell-RogerF | How's that? I guess I'm not familiar with direct connect. Got a URL with more info? |
| Armando75 | It’s on the AMD Web site; you can't miss it |
| Armando75 | It also utilizes the chipset more efficiently |
| Dell-RogerF | These also are our first blades with embedded hypervisor on an SD card? |
| Armando75 | Correct |
| Dell-RogerF | So with the SD and FlexAddress enabled I can truly just plug in or replace a blade and be instantly up with a new VM host? |
| Armando75 | Yes, the SD card provides that capability. FlexAddress allows for persistent identity for WWN and MAC addresses |
| Armando75 | Thus, if a blade goes down, the user just has to replace the blade, load an image, and identity is maintained |
| Armando75 | FlexAddress is a simple, low-cost way to limit downtime |
| Armando75 | No need to map NIC I/O paths |
| Armando75 | IP addresses are maintained |
| Armando75 | For both Fibre Channel storage and iSCSI storage |
| Dell-RogerF | By maintained, you mean in the chassis, not the blades, right? |
| Armando75 | Correct, it’s assigned to the slot in the chassis |
| DELL_AndyF | Even the IP address? |
| Dell-RogerF | Okay, looked out on the TechCenter and found the demo Scott did earlier: www.delltechcenter.com/page/poweredge+blade+demos |
| DELL_AndyF | So the IP configured in the OS is some kind of Nat'ed to the slot address? |
| Armando75 | We do this through the CMC and an SD card that houses the static addresses, so they can never be duplicated |
| Armando75 | Sorry, should have been more clear in my explanation |
| Armando75 | The IP address is maintained to either Fibre Channel storage or iSCSI storage |
| Armando75 | When setting up Fibre Channel storage, each storage processor is assigned an IP address; this is done for data routing purposes |
| Armando75 | Thus, if the blade goes down, there is no need to zone the switch and route to the storage controller IP address |
| Armando75 | FlexAddress maintains that connection |
| Armando75 | MAC addresses are used for iSCSI storage |
| Armando75 | WWN for Fibre Channel storage |
| DELL_AndyF | That's how I understood it; FlexAddress makes the physical layer addressing slot persistent and not server/blade persistent, but for higher-layer addressing TCP/IP you need your own system, like DHCP address reservation, which is working fine as the MAC address does not change |
| Armando75 | Yes, you are correct |
| Armando75 | Plus our address is never duplicated, so the user doesn't cause any issues with duplicate IP addresses |
| Dell-RogerF | Since you're here, Armando, any comments you want to make on power with respect to the new blades or in general? |
| Armando75 | Our friends at HP force customers to maintain their own pool of IP addresses and make the customer maintain a database |
| Armando75 | Not very user friendly |
| Armando75 | Yes, we have a couple of third-party white papers that will show Dell performance per watt advantage |
| Armando75 | I don't want to steal Tom Cloyd's thunder, so please stay tuned |
| Dell-RogerF | No problem. Just post them as an update on the TechCenter blades page, so I get an e-mail that there's something new. |
| Armando75 | Will do |
| Dell-RogerF | Thanks so much for coming today, Armando. Anything else you want to share? |
| Armando75 | Nope that is it for today; thanks for the time |
| Dell-RogerF | Maybe a teaser on next week's topic? |
| Dell-RogerF | Good to see you here today too, Andy. Hope to see you next week! |
| Armando75 | We will go further into the capabilities of FlexAddress and how it integrates into existing Cisco environments |
| Armando75 | Have a nice day! |
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