Microsoft's Hyper-V is released. Come join us for a discussion around using Microsoft's System Center Virtual Machine Manager.

Technical Community - Background Reading

TechCenter Hyper-V Systems Management landing page
Microsoft Hyper-V Website
Microsoft SVCMM Website

Chat Transcript

DELL-ScottH	Hello rayg !
DELL-ScottH	chillin
DELL-ToddM	Hey rayg
rayg	yep
rayg	new server r300 out of box today.
rayg	downloading Scvmm2008 beta as we speek
DELL-ScottH	cool
rayg	what are you guys pimping today?
DELL-ToddM	Does your r300 have Windows Server 2008 already?
rayg	I just loaded it this a.m. Win2k8 64bit Edt Ed.
DELL-ScottH	some more of what we talked last week, but now Todd and I have demos of it
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DELL-ScottH	hello rosalind !
rayg	cool
DELL-ToddM	Hey Rosalind
rosalind_bell	hello
rosalind_bell	how are you two
DELL-ScottH	we'll give a few more minutes for people to connect ... let's continue the banter
DELL-ScottH	doing well, and you ?
rosalind_bell	well, I'm practicing.....
DELL-ScottH	try the smileys ::surprise
DELL-ScottH	or the sounds
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DELL-ScottH	hello kent
DELL-ToddM	Welcome Kent!
rayg	::beer
DELL-KentS	Good afternoon!
DELL-ScottH	I saw that your are going to do a great session at techsummit
DELL-KentS	As long as you don't steal all of my thunder today
rayg	audience looks to be too small for that
DELL-ScottH	I think you'll have more attendees :-)
DELL-ScottH	agreed rayg
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DELL-ScottH	ohh wow, please hold for the president ! .. welcome
DELL-ToddM	Hello prez!
DELL-ScottH	ok, let's kick it off and others can catch up as needed
theprezodent	Hey guys, I am having computer issues. Be back in a min
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DELL-ScottH	Welcome everyone to our 2nd week of Hyper-v management ... last week we talked briefly about Scvmm08 ....
rayg	don't sweat it, Bush isn't that smart either!
DELL-ScottH	Todd and I have had a little more time in the lab with it and have produced a couple of demos
DELL-ScottH	mine is on using Scvmm08 to initiate a Vmware Vmotion .... here's the link
DELL-ToddM	Link to last week's chat transcript - Right Click to avoid leaving chat - http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/07-22-08+-+hyper-v+management+chat
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DELL-ScottH	http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/virtualization+demos
DELL-ScottH	caught one !
DELL-ScottH	on that page you'll find mine and Todd's demos ...
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DELL-ScottH	I was amazed at how easy it was to ...
DELL-ScottH	got two
DELL-ScottH	I'll wait
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DELL-ScottH	so in conclusion ...
DELL-ScottH	lol
DELL-ToddM	My video demo shows using Scvmm to clone a Hyper-v Vm
DELL-ScottH	.... how easy it was to manage Esx from Scvmm08
DELL-ScottH	Todd, what does yours show ?
rayg	have you guys tested P2v or is that even included in the beat now?
rayg	sorry beta
DELL-KentS	Or use firefox ;)
DELL-ToddM	My video shows how to use Scvmm to clone a Hyper-v Vm.....
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DELL-ToddM	It includes the sysprep that you must do on the Vm before the clone,
DELL-ToddM	the actual clone wizard in Scvmm,
DELL-ToddM	and the final customization that is done to the new Vm after it boots the first time
DELL-ToddM	All very cool
DELL-ToddM	More cool than Scott
DELL-ScottH	is that a new character in the Star wars movie .. "the clone wizard" ?
DELL-ScottH	most def cooler than mine
DELL-ScottH	the convert physical server option is in the beta but I haven';t played with it yet .. have you todd ?
DELL-ToddM	I haven't tried the P2v either
DELL-ScottH	I'm looking at it right now, and it seems pretty straight forward
DELL-ScottH	wizard based with steps on the left panel
rayg	good topic for next week fellas! demo material!
DELL-ScottH	yeah, I can try sucking up todds gateway machine right now
DELL-ScottH	he doens't mind when I do updates and stuff to his box in the middle of the day
DELL-ScottH	one quick thing I'd liek to cover is the sefl service portal
DELL-ToddM	I only mind a little, as long as I'm not in the middle of a test
DELL-ToddM	like last time
DELL-ToddM	::smoke
DELL-ScottH	Don't make me bring up the "storage" thing again ::sadeyes
DELL-ScottH	Where did all our production Vm's go ?
rayg	I've read about that "feature" reboot the scmvmm
DELL-ScottH	haha, yeah beta code is nice .. had to restart the console a couple times, but not too many
rayg	fill us in... how did you restet the console as I'm sure we'll all have to do it!
DELL-ScottH	with the self service role, you can create groups and place hyper-v servers in them for other admins to manage through the web browser
DELL-ScottH	simple close and reopen worked this time.
DELL-ScottH	Todd have to add the hyper-v hosts back in last time, right ?
DELL-ScottH	had
rayg	what level of Admin does it give them?
DELL-ToddM	Yes - I had to remove the Hyper-v server from Scvmm and then do an Add Hosts to put it back
DELL-ToddM	Then all the Vms were back where they were supposed to be
DELL-ScottH	you have choices for the admin levels
DELL-ToddM	I assume this was due to the beta level of the code
DELL-ScottH	can allow users all tasks or just speciofic .... I'm looking at those options in the console right now ... and agree it would be a great demo
rayg	so Self Service allows selected people to control selected vm's. Like roll back changes - etc>?
DELL-ScottH	yes manage checkpoints is one task to allow/disallow
rayg	so its good for a Huge Enterprise with geographically dispersed admins?
DELL-ScottH	start - stop - pause - remove - remote control - shutdown
DELL-ScottH	well it's for the hyper-v managers
DELL-ScottH	the Vm's are just regular servers in the Ad
DELL-ScottH	so regular user roles are the same at that level
DELL-ScottH	and I would say yes is the answer
rayg	yeah... just trying to make a business case for it.
DELL-ScottH	it also allows you to let them create Vm's .. and you can cap it with a quota on the number they can create
DELL-ScottH	so pretty cool, like Vmware's lab manager, but all bundled in
rayg	Your Developers would Love It!
DELL-ScottH	yes !
DELL-ScottH	is your beta downloaded yet ?
rayg	2430.6 remaing 12 hrs!
DELL-ToddM	The self service portal is part of Scvmm - not windows 2008
rayg	right.
DELL-ScottH	oooffffa .. tin can and a string Isp ?
rayg	T1
DELL-ToddM	Just trying to be clear on what is bundled with what :)
rayg	does self service install iwth Scvmm by default or is it an option?
DELL-ScottH	Todd ?
DELL-ScottH	I can't recall, I can bring up the insgtall screen
DELL-ToddM	It is an additional option
DELL-ToddM	When you insert the Scvmm Dvd you get a splash screen with lots of options
DELL-ToddM	There are three options that will install the three different pieces -
DELL-ToddM	Server, Admin Console, and Self Service Portal
rayg	roger
DELL-ToddM	They must each be run seperately - there isn't a master install program that will give you the option to install all
DELL-ToddM	This may be becusae it is still in Beta?
rayg	beta software!
DELL-ScottH	Was messing with the P2v just now and get to a screen to gather information about the server and it stops with error about Wmi service not running ... have to check more
rayg	That what I've seen out on the forums Scott
DELL-ScottH	Vmm is unable to complete the request. The connection to the agent R0win29503a.computers.setc.com was lost. ensure that the Wmi service and the agent are installed and running and that a firewall is not blocking Http and Wmi traffic. id: 3157 details: The Rpc server is unavailable (0x800706ba)
DELL-ScottH	just pasting so they'll come here now too ! :-)
rayg	hit and miss luck is the norm I think
DELL-ScottH	is that the Ms Technet forums ?
DELL-ToddM	That system is a Hyper-v server - not sure if you can P2v that
DELL-ScottH	which ones are you following ?
DELL-ScottH	ohh yeah, duh
rayg	Following links from Hypervoria
rayg	http://hypervoria.com/hyper-v/default.aspx
rayg	you guys seen it?
DELL-ScottH	ha, you almost got me to click on it the wrong way !
rayg	good stuff!
DELL-ScottH	looking now, haven't seen that one ... thanks for the link
rayg	sure - good resource so far!
DELL-ToddM	I was on this site a few days ago
DELL-ScottH	are you pimping your own site ? :-)
rayg	nope...
rayg	no Msmvp here.
rayg	My site is about Mountain Biking... i'll link it iffn you guys want! hee hee!
DELL-ScottH	hey look, they link to us -- http://hypervoria.com/hyper-v/delltechcenter-hyper-v-management-tech-chats.aspx
rayg	Thats How I Found You Guys!
rayg	famous you are!
DELL-ScottH	we'll have to show them some love
DELL-ScottH	strong with the force are you
rayg	they'd dig your demos me thinks
rayg	pimp me will ya! ;)
DELL-ScottH	ok, so we've got the demos ... self service portal demo would be good to do .... what else ?
rayg	you asking me?
DELL-ScottH	yeah, we got you surronded ... and just general question to the audience at large
rayg	simple install ? if I may?
DELL-ToddM	I was hoping to hear from Kent as well - what are you seeing with Hyper-v customers?
DELL-ToddM	The Scvmm install is fairly simple.
DELL-ScottH	yeah, that would be a boring demo, you';ll see in 12 hours
DELL-ToddM	I setup a Sql Server 2005 instance instead of using the Sql Express install option.
rayg	do I need to install the Hyperv role on the server for it?
DELL-ScottH	Kent, what are you going to show at techsummit ?
DELL-ToddM	And the thing I didn't get before starting was that you have to install the Scvmm server on a Windows 2008 server system
DELL-ToddM	Hyper-v does not have to be installed on the Scvmm server
rayg	Should it be?
DELL-ScottH	the recommnedation is to not have hyper-v on the managment server
rayg	ok thanks!
DELL-ScottH	that might be some of our problems in the lab
DELL-ScottH	but Todd and Rtfm after the fact usually
DELL-ScottH	.. and I
DELL-KentS	Seeing lots of people kicking the tires
DELL-ToddM	I'm like everybody else - I rftm and google when I run into problems
DELL-KentS	from a Dell hardware management perspective we have seemless support for Omsa in Server 2008 so there is no issue integrating into an exisiting management framework
DELL-ScottH	have you installed Omsa on it ?
DELL-ScottH	that's part of my work for next week
DELL-KentS	Yes I have it running in the Toronto Showcase
DELL-ScottH	and working as designed/expected ?
rayg	sorry, what's Omsa... Open Manage S A?
DELL-KentS	Absolutely
DELL-KentS	Openmanage Server Administrator
DELL-KentS	our hardware manamgement agent
DELL-ScottH	http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/openmanage+server+administrator+-+omsa
rayg	thanks I know what it is.. .just not he acronym
DELL-ScottH	yeah, we have too many in the tech industry
DELL-ScottH	Well hang out for a little longer, that's about all we had to cover this week ....
DELL-ScottH	we'll work on the portal demo - the p2v (if it works) - and next week talk about openmanage on hyper-v
DELL-ScottH	thanks to Todd for his great demo !
DELL-ScottH	and thanks to everyone for showing up again
DELL-ScottH	tell your friends to come see us !
rayg	I just started watching them. See you cats next week.
rayg	my download should be done by then!
DELL-ScottH	later gator
DELL-ScottH	ha
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DELL-ToddM	I just joined on the Hypervoria site
DELL-ScottH	cool, I'll join too
DELL-KentS	Later Guys
DELL-ScottH	thanks kent, later
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DELL-ScottH	bye
rosalind_bell	bye...............
Stuart	Bah!
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Demos

Using Microsoft's SCVMM 2008 to Clone a Hyper-V VM
By Todd Muirhead
Download .WMV file ~3.5MB
Quick demo of using Microsoft System Center Virtual Machine Manager 2008 to clone a Microsoft Hyper-V virtual machine running Windows Server 2008. The demo includes the sysprep of the VM, clone wizard in SCVMM 2008, and final customization of VM after cloning.



Using Microsoft's SCVMM 2008 to Initiate a VMware VMotion
By Scott Hanson
Download .WMV file ~3.5MB
This demo shows how you can use Microsoft's System Center Virtual Machine Manager 2008 to perform a VMware VMotion from the SCVMM 08 Console.