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| Mar 5 2008, 10:58 AM EST (current) | scott_hanson | 1495 words added |
| Mar 5 2008, 10:58 AM EST | scott_hanson | 1495 words deleted |
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| joe_green | hello | |
| Dell-RogerF | Scott's on his way. | |
| DELL-ScottH | Hello everyone ! -- sorry was having problems getting connected | |
| DELL-ToddM joined. | ||
| DELL-ScottH | Today is based around Openmanage with Vmware ... we've got Bala from the Dell Virtualization Engineering solutions team, helping us out as well ... say hello to Bala ! | |
| DELL-ToddM | Hello Bala | |
| DELL-balacs | Hello | |
| DELL-ScottH | Bala is with the team that wrote this valuable document -- Installing Openmanage in a Vmware Esx environment -- don't click on the link now, it will kill your chat session :-) --- http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/solutions/installing_dell_openmanage_on_esx.pdf | |
| DELL-ScottH | That is the starting document you should use on the topic today | |
| DELL-ToddM | Yes - cut and paste is your friend | |
| DELL-ScottH | they also have other great docs here --> http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/alliances/en/vmware_resources?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=biz&~section=004 | |
| DELL-ScottH | ok, so what specific questions are on your mind .... please chime in anytime - also if you could give any background info on your company and relevant details | |
| DELL-ScottH | I can tell you that we have been testing (and Balas lab as well) on the new 3i product and Openmanage | |
| joe_green | How are we going to be able to manage a server with an embedded version of the Hypervisor? Where would you install the agent? | |
| DELL-ScottH | great question .... no service console in 3i, so some things are built into the 3i kernel to handle management ... bala, care to elaborate ? | |
| DELL-balacs | Vmware has implemented Cim profiles in Esx 3i. Health status of hardware components will be available in Vi Client | |
| DELL-balacs | It is basically "agentless". Openmanage agents will not be installed in 3i. | |
| DELL-ToddM | Bala actually put together a demo of this capability that was used on stage during the Keynote at Vmworld 2007 in Sf | |
| DELL-ToddM | It showed Dell server health inside Virtual Center | |
| joe_green | What performance and health metrics are available and what is missing? | |
| DELL-ScottH | here's the link to the demo that was shown at Vmworld 07 -- http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2007/09/13/29651.aspx | |
| DELL-balacs | Health status of hardware components like Cpu, Memory, Fan, storage will be available in Vi Client. Lets say if something if something goes wrong with a fan, the health status will go from green to yellow (or red). You will also get an Snmp alert in Dell Ita | |
| DELL-balacs | What kind of performance metrics are you using today? The performance metrics should be the same. | |
| joe_green | how about integration into other consoles like Landesk, Bmc Patrol, or Microsoft's Systems Center? | |
| DELL-balacs | Now to "what is missing?". The main thing that will be missing is active hardware configuration through in-band. For example, you cannot create Raid volumes, configure the Bios, configure the front panel Lcd etc. For some of this you would have to use out of band tools (like Ipmi). Or use tools during system boot up | |
| DELL-balacs | When Dell releases the product, we will have detailed documents on what you will be able to do and how you will be able to do it | |
| DELL-balacs | Regarding other consoles: If those consoles support standard Ws-man, they should be able to report Esx i health information. | |
| DELL-balacs | Any console, which has features dependant on agent installs, will not be able to support it. | |
| DELL-balacs | Did that answer your question? | |
| DELL-ToddM | Most people probably won't have to create Raid volumes with an imbedded solution, so some things like that won't even be needed | |
| DELL-ScottH | Fyi for those reading the transcript and needing further info -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ws-management | |
| DELL-balacs | yes. Remember, one of the main advantage of embedded Esx is the feasibility of diskless configurations. Most of the deployment will use Vms in Fc/iscsi San. You will be able to save power becase no local drives and internal raid controller is needed | |
| DELL-ScottH | gsherman, great to see you here again ! ... anything you care to bring up ? | |
| DELL-ScottH | Jt and s12y, welcome also ! - any thoughts or topics of discussion ? | |
| s12y | just listening and trying to learn something. Thanks | |
| DELL-ScottH | no problem ! we encourage lurking :-) | |
| DELL-ScottH | I'll say that we have a new version of Openmanage right around the corner, I'll be doing some more testing on the 2950 iii and how it looks with 3i and 3.5. I'm also planning some demos around it .... any ideas or requests on what you'd like in the demo .... other that "shout outs" when I record the voice :-) | |
| DELL-ToddM | Bala - I know that you have worked with Openmange on Esx since we first started this program with Vmware. What is the most common mistake or issue that you have seen in your discussions with custeomers? | |
| DELL-ToddM | That is in terms of getting Omsa installed / configured on Esx | |
| DELL-balacs | There are minor things that i have seen customers do. like not turning off the firewall, not having the right file permissions when Openmanage files are copied from say a windows box etc | |
| DELL-balacs | If they follow the document ( http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/solutions/installing_dell_openmanage_on_esx.pdf ) there should not be any issues. | |
| DELL-balacs | Also the document has a good troubleshooting section that lists the common mistakes and how to resolve them | |
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| DELL-ToddM | Bala - I noticed that with Esx 3.5, we are now supporting a much broader range of Dell servers than in the past | |
| DELL-ToddM | I think this is a big win for customers - Why did we not support more servers in the past? | |
| DELL-balacs | Yes, our support matix will list all the servers that are supported ina particular Esx version ( http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/solutions/vmware%20software%20compatibility%20matrix.pdf ) | |
| DELL-ToddM | The chart that shows the support is on page 3 of the doc that Bala referenced | |
| DELL-ToddM | The chart almost looks like a periodic table | |
| DELL-ScottH | periodic | |
| DELL-balacs | Customer demand is the main reason. Esx is now being used by broader customer segments, hence the broader support. This will only get better ! | |
| gsherman | Sorry was on a call not at this time I was still looking for a powerconnect session and some assistance with Md1000 /md3000 and perc6 performance metrics | |
| DELL-ScottH | you're alive ! | |
| gsherman | oh yeah | |
| gsherman | I livre | |
| gsherman | live | |
| DELL-ScottH | ok, will get back on that, was on a slight detour with vacation | |
| DELL-balacs | Also, you can also use the discusssion forums to get any quick questions answered. www.dellcommnunity.com | |
| DELL-ToddM | Bala - Which forum topic should they use? | |
| DELL-balacs | sorry typo in link http://www.dellcommunity.com/supportforums/ | |
| DELL-ScottH | also don't forget ... we take discussion questions here as well ! | |
| DELL-balacs | There is a Powerconnect forum, if gsherman had powerconnect questions | |
| DELL-balacs | for Vmware Esx, you can use the Poweredge Os forums. For systems management questions use the "systems Management" forums | |
| DELL-balacs | All these are under "servers and Storage" | |
| DELL-ScottH | we'll have more detailed demos once 3i hits the street and I'll show the intergration in the Virtual Center console as a demo along with the Openmanage 5.4 Ita demo -- keep an eye out on the Openmanage section of the wiki -- http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/openmanage+systems+management and the Demos section -- http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/demonstrations | |
| DELL-ScottH | I'll also announce them on the "systemsedge" blog -- http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/systems+edge | |
| DELL-ScottH | we've got time left for any open discussion .. any topic ? anyting on your minds ? .... yes I did see kanagroos on my vacation to Australia :-) | |
| DELL-ToddM | Were the kanagroos on the menu? What did it taste like? | |
| DELL-ScottH | hahah .. yes kangaroo rump was on the menu, but I couldn't bring myself to try it , they are too cute | |
| DELL-ScottH | Marc., any news on the Equallogic front ? | |
| DELL-ToddM | Marc has a great blog - http://www.equallogic.com/blog | |
| MarcFarley_Dell | Not pertaining to this chat today, but otherwise trying to connect a few dots and figure out how to get content on Techcenter | |
| MarcFarley_Dell | There are a lot of different ways to communicate here. | |
| DELL-ScottH | yeah, but really it's all just 1's and 0's | |
| DELL-ScottH | or as someone else would say, "it's all ball-bearings" | |
| MarcFarley_Dell | I'm want to link Equallogic tech support and product management people at Equallogic and bring them to these chats. | |
| DELL-ScottH | yes, great ! how about the chat after Todd's next week ? | |
| DELL-ScottH | 3-18 ? | |
| MarcFarley_Dell | What's the topic? | |
| DELL-ScottH | That's the great thing, you get to define it ! | |
| MarcFarley_Dell | Heynow! | |
| MarcFarley_Dell | Open is good | |
| DELL-ScottH | ok, we can talk about it off-line - will 3-18 work ? enough time to line up resources ? | |
| MarcFarley_Dell | I think that can work. Its certainly enough time to get resources lined up. I'm thinking something on data protection using snapshots and replication might be possible. | |
| DELL-ScottH | Thanks again to everyone for joining ... next week's topic is on Virtualization hosted by Todd ... also check out Openmanage entry here --> http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/openmanage+systems+management ... virtualization here --> http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/virtualization ... and the Dell Vmware alliance page here --> http://www.dell.com/vmware | |
| DELL-ScottH | we'll hang out for a little bit for open discussion | |
| DELL-ScottH | anybody seen the movie Jumper yet ? | |
| DELL-ScottH | Great geek flic | |
| DELL-ScottH | guess we are done .. thanks Bala, appreciate you hanging out | |
| DELL-ToddM | Thanks for coming everybody | |
| DELL-balacs | no problem. | |
| DELL-balacs | bye ! | |
| DELL-ToddM | Use the discussion forums for any questions |
